Manila Kimonos Finesse Review

A review by Mr. A-Z

Manila Kimonos released the Finesse early 2014. This is the company's third gi design (after the Tropic Lightweight, and Thrilla Deluxe Gi). Weighing around 1.4 kg for an A1, The Finesse has a 450gsm pearl weave jacket and 10 oz. rip stop pants. The gi top’s sleekness is further highlighted by the black piping used along the lapel. Priced at only $130 plus shipping cost – good buy written all over.

I had the opportunity to talk to the one of the owners of Manila Kimonos. He mentioned that there are many firsts with The Finesse. It is their first time implementing a new cut and sizing scheme. This is also the first time they opened their doors to the international market while still keeping a good base of operations in the Philippines. From a business standpoint, this appears to be a good move towards expansion and reach. Logistics, according to them was a hurdle in expanding new markets.

Initial impression


The simplistic design and minimalistic color scheme is great. I personally love white gis. The piping around the lapel makes it stand out. Not the first gi that came up with a black piping on white gi, but I still dig it. The pearl weave material of the jacket feels soft on the inside, and isn’t abrasive to the skin when rolling in it. The embroidery is of high quality grain, and makes the lotus-themed logo of Manila Kimonos “shine” through its minimalist design.


"Refinement of Basics" 


Like most kimonos in the market today, the Finesse comes in a sublimated gi bag emblazoned with the Manila Kimonos lotus flower logo. The gi also comes with their logo sticker. Personally, I don’t include the gi bag as part of my ratings for a gi. I barely even use the bags after I start rolling in them. If you are keen on the aesthetics of a gi bag, you’re in for a treat. With high-detailed sublimation on the front with their logo – partnered up with the Finesse’s own branding on the bag, Manila Kimonos has spared no expense in making even the minutest details a priority.














Pre-roll review

Gi Bag. Photo Credit to Manila Kimonos

It is definitely one of my better fitting gis, if not the best with my more athletic frame. I am currently 5’6” and weigh 158lbs. and wear an A1. Another highlight of the Finesse is its lightweight feel. It doesn’t weigh you down even after hours of rolling. I am not a fan of rip stop pants, however the Finesse’ pants made me rethink that stand. The pants are sturdy with ample knee support, for my knees when I shoot for a takedown or just simply landing on the mats. The bungee cord that ties up the pants was of enough length to securely tie the rip stop pants in place. Some of my other gis are short on this aspect thus making it a hassle retying the drawstring after every roll.

During the roll review

My expectations were met when rolling in the Finesse. It’s a snug fit, as you would expect from an athletic cut kimono. I felt as if I was flowing through my passes and the techniques I implement in my game. The rip stop pants give enough room to scoot around your hips. I’ve had rip stop pants in the past that limited my movements. For a guard player like me, that is one important aspect to take note of. The sleeves being somewhat of a narrower fit than most gis, is excellent for keeping your opponents grips to a minimum.

Post-roll review

As I’ve stated in my previous reviews: I always hand wash and air-dry my gis under the sun. I never use washers and dryers. The gi retained its softness even after clean up. Shrinkage was minimal, I estimate a half inch for the sleeves and with the rip stop pants barely noticing a change. It’s good to note that the black dye used in the stitching and in the black lapel piping did not bleed during wash. It would be uncool to have black spots on a very clean kimono like the Finesse.

Overall conclusion


For a $130 price tag, you just won't get a gi this good that often, unless you see it on sale on BJJHQ and other websites. I love the fit, I love the simple design, and I most definitely love the price. If there is anything that I do not like about this gi, is that it only comes in white. Cleaning a white gi is a more tedious task especially after a long day’s training. My school uses blue puzzle mats, and the color rubs on this white gi. The Finesse is a small batch run and from what Manila Kimonos told me, they are running out of sizes quick.

A cleaner finish to a jiu-jitsu kimono is what’s more favored these days. Overly embroidered or patch on gis are but a thing of the past. This saves room for school patches or sponsors’ logos. The Finesse in terms of overall quality and aesthetics can be compared to the best brands out there.

If there is any room for improvement, I think they should come up with more colors like the first gi that they released.  

Where to Buy?

To order if you are in the Philippines, you can contact them through their email: manilakimonos@gmail.com or send them a private message through their Facebook Page. For orders elsewhere, you can check their online store.



Submission FC Busted For Selling Fake Hemp Gis

Hemp is a variant of cannabis that contains less than 1% of THC. THC is the type of cannabinoid that has the ability to produce psychedelic effect. Hemp has been used for different purposes including manufacturing of fabric, paper, fuel, wax etc. This variant of cannabis over the last years has been used for BJJ gis. One of the main characteristics of hemp fabric is that it is breathable and antimicrobial. Being a porous fabric, it is more comfortable to use for rolling in contrast to cotton. Also, one of its main selling points is that  it has the ability to fight off staph and other common problems that we encounter on the mats.

Hemp You Say? Not so fast.

Why Hemp?

In terms of cultivation, cotton requires 1400 gallons of water for every pound produced. In contrast to hemp, this requires only half of it. In terms of strength and reliability, hemp can grow faster and could be more durable in contrast to cotton. Also, hemp can be produced 200%-250% more fiber given the same land area. It also doesn’t require too many pesticides, and you could harvest hemp in a matter of 4 months. In short, it is economical, not to mention greener.

There are only a few countries all over the world that produce hemp fabrics used for gis. I personally had the opportunity to talk to a gi company owner, and he mentioned the hassle of getting it from China, including the price tag that it has.  Given the these factors, only a few companies make use of hemp material on their gis.

Spotting a Fake Hemp Gi

One of the premier brands that used hemp was Datsusara Gear. Built in 2007, they specialized mainly on MMA gears like bags. Since 2008s, they were able to develop hemp gis. They also worked hand in hand with brands like OTM with their line of hemp gis.


Recently, Christopher Odell from Datsusara released two videos that tackled how to spot a fake BJJ hemp gi.  They showcased gis from Datsusara Gear and Submission Fight Company, and Christopher Odell of Datsusara pointed out that definitely, SubmissionFC is using non-hemp material for their hemp gis, based on the burn test.


Also, they had the SubmissionFC gi tested and the result coincided with the burn test. In fact, more surprisingly, no trace of hemp was found on the gis.

Is Submission FC Aware?

After a stir regarding the fake hemp gis that they were selling, they finally admitted on their blog that they were actually selling fake hemp gis. They mentioned, however, that they were also victims in this whole mess putting the blame on the factory that supplied them with the supposed hemp gis.

According to them they are going to do the following:

1. Remove any hemp advertising
2. Source new tags with accurate labeling to replace current gi tags
3. Lab test all current and future products
4. Make sure previous customers are satisfied

Also, they mentioned that:
“If you have purchased any of our "hemp" gear within the past 12 months and are unsatisfied with the product, please email us with a copy of your receipt to cs@submissionfc.com and we will get back to you as soon as possible.” 
Why would the Submission Fight Company test the content of their hemp gi too late in the game? They mentioned that they just tested it beginning of March, when they were selling gis for how long now? This simply shows that they do not have any idea what their product is if not for all these efforts made by guys from Datsusara Gear. Also, Christopher Odell warned the company twice in the forums about this scenario. One in March of 2013 and another in September of 2013.

Vandal Kimonos Interview

 
There are a lot of small gi brands entering and exiting the market today. Though entering late in the game, Vandal Kimonos is a brand that caught our attention. With their Hawaiian inspired designs, we do believe that it is a tough market to be involved in. However, they still managed to remain relevant. In this interview, we try to learn more straight from the man who started Vandal Kimonos, Kiah Petrie.

Who is behind Vandal Kimonos and what inspired you to build Vandal Kimonos? Also, why name it Vandal Kimonos?

My Name is Kiah Petrie, I am a Nova Uniao black belt under professor Leandro Nyza who is a first generation Nova Uniao black belt under Professor Wendell Alexander, the co founder of Nova Uniao.

Vandal started as an eye wear company that my buddy started. Vandal Eye Wear ended up gaining a lot of popularity in Hawaii and in the martial arts world but it soon came to a halt because of disagreements between the partners and investors. Having trained Jiu Jitsu for over 15 years, I always had an affinity to the quality and design aspect of the kimonos I wore. I never really found one that had all the qualities I wanted together in one gi. Therefore I decided to take the name since it already had a tight nit following and also a catchy ring to it and recreated it as VK/Vandal Kimonos.

What year did you start developing products for Vandal Kimonos?

Our first batch of gis was released in 2013, however, me and my team had been testing samples from dozens of manufacturers around the world since 2010 trying to find the perfect production team.

I noticed that you banked on a Hawaiian/island theme on your product line? Don't you find it risky considering how many Hawaiian themed gis are out there especially now? 


Every person involved in our company is from Hawaii, born and raised and that is heavily reflected in our products. I don't think that it is risky. I think that if you are producing a quality authentic product it will shine through the clutter and the masses will follow.

Do you have any new product coming up? What can you say about it? Do you already have a price for it? 


S2 viper, Vandal Kimonos
Our newest gi, the S2 VIPER was just released and it is available on our website www.vandalkimonos.com, Price is $159 and shipping is free. Material wise it is the same as our previous models incorporating a 450GSM Pearl Weave jacket with our signature 12oz (pants). Military Spec Ripstop Pants, a pearl weave gusset and all ripstop lapel and inner reinforcements, it is the perfect combination of lightness and durability, the styling is low key basic white gi with some charcoal trim and minimal branding “no Hawaiian theme”.

Given the number of players in the BJJ gi market scene, how do you want Vandal Kimonos to be remembered by both Gi Addicts and casual buyers?


There is a huge amount of players in the BJJ Gi market at this time and I hope that our brand can be recognized and remembered as producing some of the highest quality gis on the market with original styling and excellent customer service.

CTRL Ground Squad Review

A Review By Mr A-Z. 

To start things of, the Ground Squad is a limited edition gi by CTRL Industries. They only released 250 of this particular design. Heavily influenced by Navajo culture, I find this gi unique. I received this gi as a gift so in terms of price, I wasn't really able to find out. 


Initial impression

Ground Control, CTRL Industries
I really liked the color scheme and whole design of the gi. The turquoise and purple accents along with the Native American patchwork really made the gi stand out. The gi top felt great and the pants even better. The knee area of the pants felt sturdy and good for takedowns.

CTRL Industries, Gi Critic

The gi came with a bag that is made of ripstop. Like I mentioned, I have no idea what the price is because it was given to me as a gift.

Pre-roll review

CTRL Ground Control, Gi Critic

The gi's A2 sizing fit great for my 5'6" 160 pound frame, although a little longer than usual but it was still workable for me. It was soft enough to not actually wear an undershirt underneath the top. The pants were slightly baggy. The drawstring was just the right length and actually kept my pants tied. The embroidery on the gi was both appealing to the sight and to the touch. They felt really well made.

Ground control detail

During the roll review


I loved the jacket. It was both light and aesthetic and did not restrict movement at all. The gi allowed me to flow thoroughly during the drills and sparring sessions. The pants were somewhat a slightly different story. The pants felt great although it was too baggy for my taste. It was comfortable and it did not suffocate my skin as I went through the motions in class. Just as I suspected; the patches and embroidery really was well made. Even after going fairly hard during training, there was no sign of tear or damage.

Post-roll review:

Again, I always state that all my gis are hand washed and air dried under the sun. I have never used a washer or a dryer for my gis. Not even once. There was no shrinking on the gi, which is a shame because I kind of wanted the sleeves to shrink a little and for the pants to tighten a little: although those were just minor things. Even after countless washings, the design is still there and there are no signs of fading on either the gi or the patchwork.

Overall conclusion


The gi is really good. The gi is very pleasing aesthetically. Although the fit on the sleeves and on the legs were not exactly perfect on me, it was nothing major. Overall, the gi is great and has even made it into my weekly rotation during training.

10 Small Gi Companies Worth The Try!

Ever thought of buying a new gi? Before you even buy from the established companies, why not support the small ones? Have you ever thought of buying from the smaller companies that are lesser known in the market? In this article, we will make a list of small gi companies that you might want to support more.

As an avid Gi addict, I love gis coming from both small and big companies. For casual buyers though, they may be exposed to companies that have more capital to get their names out there. For instance, only a few big companies can get their names in IBJJF tournaments as a major sponsor, and even get famous black belts as part of their sponsored athletes. Since our consciousness is affected by the number of times we get exposed to certain brands, this leaves a smaller room for small brands to showcase what they are offering.

There are small brands that I do believe deserve the support of the BJJ community for their great products, out of the box ideas and even cool side projects. Because of that hunger to leave a lasting impression, given the dog eat dog competition of gi companies, some can come up with really great products.

Here is my short list small gi companies that you might want to support more. These companies come in no particular order.

Grab and Pull

Based in the UK, Grab and Pull started manufacturing gis way before most small companies started. Grab and Pull started in 2008. Influenced by surfing and music, these elements made Grab and Pull the company that it is today. Working with Moskova in developing their gi, and also Quicksilver, this brand is one of the most underrated players in the gi industry.Also, they have helped support UK based competitions.

Kauai Kimonos


What company do you think came up with the lightest gi? Yes, it’s Kauai Kimonos. This small company has a great number of things unique to them. One, they do not use pearl weaves, single weaves, hemps or gold weaves.



They simply make use of Rip Stop material for their gis (both for tops and pants). Two, unlike most companies that have factories to outsource to in China or in Pakistan, they run everything in Bali, Indonesia. Also, they also supported a gi donation drive for kids in Moldova and Dominican Republic. What I am waiting for though is for IBJJF to make their gis competition legal.

OK! Kimonos

In terms creating the right gi for the consumer, I personally believe that Brendan has enough knowledge to make it work. As the main guy behind Gi Reviews, he has wealth of knowledge regarding the gi designs and manufacturing standards set by some of the best players in the gi industry today. OK! Kimonos has the right blend of a Meerkatsu made Tiger, and a market that can be potentially rewarding—kids gis.

The owner of the company simply thought that it was time to give back to the BJJ community when he started the company. Influenced by BJJ Globetrotter, he participated in a gi drive in Rio for kids to train on some free gis. As for those fans who are waiting for their next batch of gis, watch out mid-April as they have a new ones coming up.

Image taken from The Great Meerkatsu

For those looking for a discount, you can use the code “GiCritic” and get 10% off everything on the site and get free shipping on all gis and spats!

Manila Kimonos

Representing their Pinoy roots, Manila Kimonos initially offered $107 Tropic Lightweight gis that came in white, royal blue and black. After getting the attention of the market for their affordable and high quality gis, they released a two top gi (one pearl weave, one rip stop) called the Thrilla. The whole reason for the two top gi is to enjoy a standard competition/training gi and at the same time have a travel gi. Priced at $169, it was a keeper.


Now, their latest offering is the Finesse, a clean gi with a white piping. To ensure practical shipping fees for North American and European orders, the company has expanded to the US. Inking partnership with a West Coast based business partner, we can expect more of their gi in other regions of the world.

In recent months, Manila Kimonos joined with BJJ and comic artist Gawakoto to have a benefit tee for the victims of the Typhoon Haiyan.







Oss Gear

Though admitting that they haven’t pushed the brand in 2013, Oss Gear remains one of the companies out there with the catchiest names. Since the term OSS is widely used in the BJJ circles, it isn’t surprising how they are not the only one with such a name. In fact, they even sent a cease and decent order on its Brazilian counterpart for using similar logo. After working with projects such as the kickass shirt for the Miyao bros, OSS Gear has released The Original, The Daruma and The 50th State of Mind which is a tribute to Hawaii.

Inverted Gear

Who doesn’t love pandas? If you love pandas and you love to invert, Inverted Gear is the perfect brand for you. Being involved with Tap Cancer Out, Inverted Gear is a brand that has been out there in terms of being involved with great causes. In terms of branding, they used a panda which you expect to come from Meerkatsu. But no, it is an original concept that is cute, and clean. Unlike other gis with different bling, their gis are just simple and clean, which is a good way of focusing the attention on the inverted panda.

Strike Fightwear

Say My Name
There are two types of people who would love to support Strike Fightwear. One, you have to be an avid Walter White fan. Two, if you are after an ever improving company that is not afraid of reinventions, Strike Fightwear is the brand that you want to look at. Since the inception of this company, they have never settled. They continued to improve from the first gi to the latest that they have right now. The more recent gi release that they have is the Crowd Control II. Priced $89, this gi is a keeper not to mention you can mix and match your size.

31Fifty

31Fifty is a brand that started in 2009. Initially investing on shirts, they now released their very first gi, the Mano. Though it is their first time to release a BJJ gi, they are familiar with clean and simple designs. This Hawaiian company recently caught the Gi lovers’ attention with its Mano.

MVNT

Probably one of the few brands that originated from the Land Down Under, MVNT offers clean with their premium gis and other BJJ apparel. They went under our radar, probably, simply because they are just producing gis per small batches, similar to what other small gi companies are doing. Looking at their logo, you can easily tell how they are heavily influenced by Eastern Designs.

I am looking forward to their future designs since they are following a clean and minimalist theme from their logo to their gi’s overall aesthetics.

RVDDW

Reversal Dogi Design Work is a Japanese based gi company that brought the FLASH Kimono. This design brought mixed reaction from different sites. For some reviewers, they listed it as one of the worst looking gis ever. For me, personally, I find this gi to be sharp.

Reversal is a brand that has been known to put style in fight and grappling apparel. Unlike other companies that have outsourced to either China or Pakistan, Reversal has maintained its production in Saitama, Japan. On the downside though, you may have to dig deep in your wallet if you want to get this gi. The Flash costs around $230!

If you want to buy one, you may have difficulty navigating the Japanese sites that offer minimal assistance to someone who doesn’t read Japanese. The best online retailer for you to go to would have to be chokesports.com

Honorable Mention

Progress JiuJItsu

An underrated brand based in the UK, Progress JiuJitsu is also a young player in the gi industry. They have offered clean looking gis such as the £86 (roughly $144), M6 which is a 350 gsm pearl weave gi that combines both durability and style. Started in 2012, they look up to UK brands such as Scramble and UK and aims to be a known worldwide brand in the near future. As for the future plans for this company, they are to sponsor top names from Atos San Diego this year and are planning to spend more time in California this year in order to grow the brands some more.

Aesthetic

When the Aura and the Alpha gis came out, they started with a bang. Known to have entered the BJJ scene by supporting the BJJ Hacks documentary about the Red Belts, they were a mysterious bunch since there was no website, or any social media page at that time for the company. What makes the company unique is the contrast sunburst stitching pattern that they implemented with both their debut gis.



Gi Addict, do you have a favorite small gi company in mind?

CTRL Industries Gigante Review

CTRL Industries Gigante will be reviewed by the hard to please, always angry, and brutally honest Mr. Chow. 


 The CTRL Industries Gigante, over the last months, became part of my typical gi rotation. CTRL Industries lately has been making a lot of noise with their designs. A few months ago, CTRL made the Gigante as their limited edition gi. It is a tribute to the San Francisco Giants. According to the company, they just settled for a small 200 gi production. When the gi was released, a number of BJJ fans noticed striking similarities with the Shoyoroll 7th Son. Both came out rocking the San Francisco theme, and both were released almost around the same time. 
 

Initial Impressions



The price for this gi runs around $170 plus the shipping cost, it fell right at $195. If you are looking for a mid priced gi, this is definitely not the first option for you. The product comes with a sling bag. According to the manufacturer, the gi is 95% preshrunk. The top was made of 420 gsm pearl weave fabric while the pants were made of rip stop material. The construction of the jacket met my expectations. 



I owned a couple of Shoyorolls, and in comparison with the Gigante, I do believe that they are neck and neck with the top dog today in terms of durability and overall construction. Comfort-wise, I do love the feel of the pearl weave jacket. It was comfortable, and the cut fits my 5’6” 160 pound Asian frame. The collar was made of eva foam. 

The pants are also good, though they could've added two more loops. The fit was what I was looking for. It wasn't too tight on my ass or anything.


  
Check the Size Chart


Design

Colored black with an orange contrast stitch, it is just not something that sits well with my preference. I am not at all pleased with the “No Bammer Gi” taping by the skirt. Why did I buy it then? I did love the fact that they made a tribute to the San Francisco Giants. Growing up watching baseball, it has that novelty appeal in you. What I do like about the design is the skyline print that you see by the back. This unique print provides the San Francisco reference. Also, you see embroideries that are really clean and high quality. 

How Did It Do After a Few Months?

Mr. Chow is hard to please. I don’t usually like gis that are not well made. After a few months, the Gigante is still intact. For a $170, I’d have to say that it lived up to the hype. I now understand how BJJ gi hoarders are now saying that this brand could probably be the next in line for Shoyoroll’s throne. There is no significant fading on the gi’s color. I use it around once or twice a week for the past few months now. I bought it around June of 2013 during their pre-selling, and after seven months or so, it is still a great gi to use.  

The Origin Comp 550 Review

Our regular blogger Mr A-Z is going to review The Origin Comp 550 (A2) that he bought from the US.

Origin is one of the best US based brands that have come up with some amazing innovations in the gi business. They have schemed a rashguard plus gi set up. For those asking, is this worth it? Mr. A-Z managed to use this gi for several months now. Aside from having a shit load of gi collections, he has a refined taste in his gi! 

Read on!

Initial impression

The color scheme was very appealing.  The details such as the embroidery and stitching were well made. No loose threads. Cloth used felt soft on the inside and a little rough on the outside.
Value for the gi was good. The Origin Comp 550 comes with 2 bags; one for the gi itself and the other for the rashguard that came along with it. When I first tried on the rashguard it was rather loose on me and was definitely not the fit that I was looking for on the rashguard so I have no thoughts about it other than it felt smooth and silky on my skin. All in all the gi cost me $180.


Pre-roll Review

The gi fit great. Sleeves were somewhat long although that has to do more with my body type than the gi itself. (I used to weigh 185 lbs. at 5’6 when I bought the gi.) The pants felt a little heavier than the usual ripstop even though it did seem like ripstop. The pants provided excellent knee reinforcement and you could really feel the pads when you kneel for a takedown or throw. The extra long drawstring annoyed me however. It was long enough to wrap it around your waist again. The crotch/gusset area also featured a cloth made of gi material. It was a very nice touch considering that was the same spot where I accidentally ripped through my Koral pants. That is a different story, however.























During the Roll Review

The jacket was good. I definitely felt that jacket was light yet sturdy as I went through the motions of our warm-ups, drills, and rolls. The pants were indeed heavier than the normal ripstop. They were difficult to grab come sparring time. The extra knee padding, which made up a huge part of the pants made it difficult to grip properly. The pants had 6 rope loops, which kept the pants from falling down. The pants fit great. They were tight on my quadriceps and hamstrings but not tight enough to hamper your movement. The gi’s overall feel and performance was well worth the price indeed.


Post Roll Review

The gi was still performing great. It had very minimal shrinkage. It was almost the same as when I first bought it except for the fact that the color faded. I hand wash my gis all the time. I have never put them in a washer, dryer, nor have I ever applied bleach to any of my gis. As months rolled by, I noticed that the gi’s color was fading. I am aware that most gis are subject to fading but this one was a little bit faster than the usual. In a span of 7 months, my black/purple gi was turning into a brown/lavender gi.


Gi Critic Verdict

The Comp 550 2011 was good overall in terms of sizing, fit, and performance. The drawbacks though were the very long drawstring and possibly the heavier than usual ripstop pants. The main qualm I have with the gi though was how quickly the color deteriorated. I would have scored the gi highly had it not bled and faded.